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The Ghost of Christmas Not to Be

Posted on 2006.12.02 at 11:44
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qzxy at 2006-12-07 01:25 (UTC) (Link)
Great job, karasu! Great idea for a story, loved the Ghosts of Christmas motif and all those little moments of brotherly zen you are so brilliant at concocting (that last paragraph being the epitome). The only thing I didn't buy was Dean being smarter than Sam. Dean's no slouch, and I definitely think he plays dumb a lot, but to me Sam does have more of your conventional academic intelligence, and while I can see Sam savoring that bit of superiority, I don't think he has any insecurities about it or had to work that hard to get there. Just my take on it though, YMMV. ;) But Dean's reaction to Sam's speech was great.

Can't wait to read your next story! :D I'm jealous of whoever is your beta, I'd love that honor.

- simpatico from TWOP
azalaea at 2007-01-04 23:45 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for sending me the link, C... er... Karasu... er... you know who you are. I enjoyed it very much, especially the last few sections. That dream. OW.
(Anonymous) at 2007-09-15 22:40 (UTC) (Link)

A Winchester gift for the good fanboys and fangirls

I don’t read fan fiction, but if I had to read one work, I suppose this had to be it. I trusted you with writing, characterization and objectivity.

It’s always better when the supernatural story contributes to reveal something about the Winchesters or to bring a more personal interaction. Which this story does quite nicely. And dude (sorry, couldn’t help it), before Playthings (drunken Sam gets loquacious) and the Supernatural graphic novels (teen Dean wanting to run away – so I’ve heard. The novels are on their way, so I’ll get to that later)? You do know your boys well.

I also realized how easier it must be to write for Dean than for Sam. I felt how complex a character Dean is, whereas Sam is left with his saintly aura (though part of it is Dean’s view), when we should have more insight on him (that’s why I had the impression of a penchant for Sam at times). Ironic, when one thinks Sam was set out as the hero. I believe season 3 will flesh him out more. Which is good. But being so partial to Dean, I can’t help worrying about that character.

It starts out with a ghost, which calls for the EMF, which brings out… After the EMF bit, I was saying to myself somebody has to tell Sam that he’s not very brotherly here, when he thinks he’s actually in brotherly mocking fashion. And then comes the ghost’s revelation. You evil man! I just blurted out. With glee.

"Sam didn’t like seeing Dean feeling awkward in a situation where he didn’t feel he could fit in.” I do appreciate the nuance here.

Oh. Mention of Jet Li? Dean wanting to do stunt work for Jet Li? Man, you get handfuls of cookies for that. (Okay, how about a dreamy dream with “God’s sunshine”?)

jennk528 at 2007-10-22 18:42 (UTC) (Link)
I started this ages ago, lost it, found it again, and finally saved it so I wouldn't go through all that angst one more time...And yes, now I have finally read it.

Lovely story, and you write the boys' voices so well.

That instant of Sam's derision about Dean's homemade EMF meter - priceless.

Dean's dream, and all the details - yikes. Too scary! And I can so see that happening, the way Sam would take care of him, and the way Sam's life would just sort of fall apart.

Oh, *boys*

Perfect ending. LOL! The boys laughing their asses off in a pancake house....

Now I should go read your newest one, but I'm not sure how much I can sneak by while here at work....

btw, I am not a registered member at TWoP, but I have always enjoyed your erudite and insightful comments on the show. Hee!
Corvus Imbrifer
corvus_imbrifer at 2007-10-22 19:09 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you so much for saying so! The voices are key, one can only hope they ring true. (Mostly it's just making room in the reader's imagination and letting the actors take over. Not too difficult.)

The newest one is much longer, and different, I do hope you like it as much. (There is a short entry that looks like Google Mail, 'Dear Uncle Michael'. Maybe that would be easier to read at work. But no getting in trouble at work on my account!)

Now why aren't you registered at TWoP? We want to hear your thoughts, too!

Thanks again,

jennk528 at 2007-10-23 13:10 (UTC) (Link)
Because I have such a bad memory, and I can't remember all the good parts even when I've just finished a story, I forgot to mention the wonderful scene where Sam fumblingly (is that a word?) apologizes for the EMF meter remark. Love the instant he realizes what he'd said (Thanks to George), and how Dean reacted.

Anyway, I'm glad I finally went back and found your story and read it all way through this time!

And I did start Strangers - because I couldn't help it - but decided that yes, sitting in the back room through 107 pages might look a little suspicious....I look forward to reading it in its entirety while at home. Love it so far, though - the ladies on the balcony admiring Dean. LOL! How could they not?

And as far as TWoP...gee, kinda shy here. *g* Not sure I'm tough enough to play in the big leagues! I believe I shall continue to lurk for a while yet.
sylvanwitch at 2008-01-27 19:57 (UTC) (Link)
I'm so glad that I saved the link you sent me for when I was grading exams. I wanted a happy break, and I got one in this delightful, incredible seasonal story. There were several moments during which I laughed out loud, most frequently because you absolutely capture Dean's voice and attitude in this story. Oh, you've got Sam's, too, no doubt, but Dean's my boy, so he makes me chuckle harder. I LOVE the reworking of a classic (several, layered classics, actually--the original, the film versions, this Supernatural retelling) that you've done, and I love, love, love the detail of Dean's "nightmare" and the horror of it, more horrific, really, than anything else they (or we, as readers and viewers) have faced. Bravo! This is just exceptionally well written!
Corvus Imbrifer
corvus_imbrifer at 2008-01-28 22:03 (UTC) (Link)
I hope reading it out of season didn't make it difficult to get into. This was written quite some time ago, as I'm sure you noticed, so it's rather dated. Back when the resolution to most hauntings was the destruction of the earthly fetters. That law of Supernatural went wandering off at some point. And of course long before the most recent Christmas episode, about which -- Off topic. Ahem.

I'm glad you didn't find the Christmas Future nightmare too daunting. Looking at it now it seems to go on for far too long; I ended up telling a story in its own right, which may have been too big a shift. But I was writing rather stream-of-consciousness in that scene, and got rather lost in the moment.

And again, I find it hard to take credit for writing dialog when it is Ackles and Padalecki that have managed to create characters that make it easy for the reader to hear them no matter what we write.

Now, of course, as I glanced at it, I shudder at some of the writing. I'm relieved it holds up.

sylvanwitch at 2008-01-29 16:05 (UTC) (Link)
Has anyone ever told you that you're a hard person to compliment? *grins* I'm going out on a limb here, but it seems like you have that writer/artist habit of self-deprecation, of never thinking that your work is good enough. While as a writer myself, I share this habit, I have grown more comfortable with being able to say, "Yes, this part is good," or "Wow, that was a nice turn of phrase," without thinking that I'm arrogant. I'm going out on this limb because I want you to understand that I think you have a lot of talent, and I'd hate to see you fail to thrive in this or any writing endeavor simply because you don't recognize that talent.

Now you might think I'm terribly forward or impertinent, but I hope not because I really do think your writing is excellent, and I just want you to know that.
Corvus Imbrifer
corvus_imbrifer at 2008-01-29 21:23 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, now. I'm merely a gentleman, and one should demure and blush and protest. It gets people to talk about you more.

"So enough about me; what do you think of me?"

I find myself curiously stuck on the nice turn of phrase, in fact. Not so much in the Christmas story, but in the Western. There was one particular phrase that I quite liked, and was felt I had to get all the other bits to measure up to it. (Overlooking the lessons of high and low notes, bright and dark colours et cetera.) And of course I kept wondering if that one phrase would be mentioned as a particular stand-out, but it never was, so there.

Now the problem is how to get back into the writing groove when the show is currently inspiring me to watch Grey's Ana -- okay, not even in jest. You know what I mean.

Makes me curious about the nature of fan fiction: does it only exist in response to a source? There was a really interesting discussion on Metafandom about that.

Anyway, thanks again!
sylvanwitch at 2008-01-31 17:07 (UTC) (Link)
Are you really? A gentleman, I mean??? That is to say, is it possible that I, humble slasher, have stumbled across that rarest of all fanfiction writers, the MALE??? *grins* Seriously, I don't know how much you have your hand in this or other fandoms, but men are few and far between, in my experience.

I wonder about the fanfiction/show correlation often. For me, as an HP writer initially, I found it a lot more difficult to write fanfiction in that fandom once Book 7 was out. I have written a little, but it's very elegaic and doesn't so much add to fanon or canon as it does remark upon one aspect of it. Mostly, I don't write HP anymore.

If SPN were to be canceled (which I'm trying REALLY hard not to imagine), I think I'd continue to write the boys' adventures, first because I enjoy writing horror and second because I really love these characters. (And, as a not unrelated note, I don't write only slash. Many of my stories in this fandom are gen, in fact.) Something about both their individual characters and the mytharc of the show has captured my fascination far more powerfully than Harry Potter even at the height of my fanaticism with it. And it's not because the boys are so pretty... (Well, not the ONLY reason ;-) Anyway, I'd like to think that I'll keep writing in the fandom even if the show ends. But, again, I'm going to cling to that infamous river in Egypt as long as I can.

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amberdreams at 2011-05-24 13:45 (UTC) (Link)
This brought tears to my eyes - the ghost of Christmas future was utterly chilling and so so sad, even though they were about to avert it...

You write a mean story, that's for sure.
Corvus Imbrifer
corvus_imbrifer at 2011-05-25 05:10 (UTC) (Link)
This was my first, I believe. At that time in the show, the "rules" were more strict about ghosts and body parts, so I'm not sure the conceit works now. But I'm glad you still found it worthwhile!
amberdreams at 2011-05-25 08:32 (UTC) (Link)
I am just sad you stopped writing. Do you write professionally? I'd definitely read more by you if you did. Well as long as it was fiction, I'm not a great non fiction reader! :D
borgmama1of5 at 2017-04-30 12:55 (UTC) (Link)
So glad I found this! You have a great way of writing the boys and you write fascinating case stories!
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